First question of the day, on the lack of wireless Internet access in the new student housing: What would it cost to link it [campus housing] to our [wireless] network here?
Answer: Not on the scale of any of the other things we do. It’s not like they need to lay fiber across the road.
There’s nothing in the capital budget for that, so if it’s five-figures’ worth, it [the cost] is still non-trivial, though to not provide it for the students is (again, Dr. Ryan’s phrase_ penny-wise and pound-foolish.
So if it’s a load issue, with 200 residents sitting on their laptops, on the network, they’re off the grid here... It can’t be a load issue, it’s gotta be hardware.
“How’re we gonna run the fiber optics across Foothill?”
“I’m sure there’s some plausible explanation on the face of it.”
Who knows if it’s a reasonable explanation? They said there would be wireless Internet access in the community room, so they’ve already got something in there. “In the current student dorms (the Gulags), I was arranging for two people to set up routers, but the administration got ticked off and said that’s leeching/stealing. They promised that the new student housing would have it.”
Dr. Ryan: That’s technically not stealing.
The Claremont Conversation is a great idea, some of which can happen online, but some of which should happen face-to-face. Since 2001 it’s been mainly face-to-face. GSC has been trying to put on some events to encourage conversation: President’s Coffee Hours, Townhall Meetings with the Administration, more recently/prominently the GSC Conference. The life of the Claremont Conversation is determined by the extent that a community/conversation springs up that people use.
Dr. Ryan: We need an action plan for the summer, so that we can see someone at orientation talking about Claremont Conversation Online, and talking about putting a shortcut to student life stuff on CCO. That’d be a start, if each school’s sub-homepage had a link that went to CCO. My point is, we have people, who have to - as part of their research - talk at orientations, etc. In terms of an Action Plan, I’ll have to leave that up to you.
Ask Klitgaard to…
There’s a content management system that makes the web portals similar for every school/department, i.e. the menus on the left hand side that makes it easy to say “put a link on the left-hand side”
Terry Krandall: For any initiative, we need both a top-down and a bottom-up approach. That pressure should be coming in from both angles.
Dr. Ryan: Have you seen the new version of the homepage? (www.cgu.edu) If the GSC was to say, “Give me one of those themes. We want it to be intellectual community, etc.”, they’d listen. That would give you the top-down, because everyone looks at that page eventually. You have to have a story for President Klitgaard. He’s very narrative oriented. Tell him a compelling story, he’ll get exited, he’ll tell everybody. Work on what that story, what our narrative, should be.
Shabnam: What’s the next step? Do we have any activities planned? Do we have anything to get them engaged, involved?
Dr. Ryan: That has to be another component of our work for the summer. What is its [CCO] goal? We have these online tools, but how do we involve people, and what do we want out of it?
Terry Krandall: If we were to develop, in CCO, practical close-to-everyone usage for everyone, would the branches grow into deep thought issues, or do we set aside the campus events everyday, student stuff aside, and let the conversation/community building happen on its own? And just focus on the INTELLECTUAL part?
Bradley: The idea brought up at the previous meeting: T-Talks. Kind of like Coffee Hours, but more of a discussion period. Can be done in Albrecht auditorium, with free food to attract students to come, etc.
Should we podcasts the T-Talks? What would it look like if we had an intellectual community? Buzzword from previous meeting: Like a *Salaam*, but a little more structured.
Terry Krandall: We have musicians, we have artists, we can mix it up!
And preserve the T-Talks as podcasts. CCO is for setting up an identity, our interests. Faculty asking around “I didn’t know anyone was interested in that.”
The current GSC office is way too small. In the past we had a house that was underutilized… We’re looking at one of the back houses 700 sq ft. It would be what we’ve framed as a *Conversation Space* - a hub for a conversation(s). We haven’t had a chance to look at it yet, but they’re working on finding us a space, whether a basement or house where we can facilitate these. You need to have an anchor in three dimensional space for these conversations to grow.
Dr. Ryan: UTNE. A magazine, an intellectual magazine, exists to have people throw out and react to ideas. They did a variation on Salaams, tried to get them started up in cities around the US. Google that, and you can find a good model of what could happen at the GSC House/Conversation Space. One of the big things you could do would be to reach out to alumns. I’m not sure they’d have an excuse to come, but I bet they would.
Shabnam: A couple ideas for the next meeting. To design a better idea of what we’re gonna do, maybe we can define our user characteristics and requirements and goals. For users of this CCO, I think we have our 1) Freshmen, and then we have 2) our students who are in their coursework, who know the school but are really busy, and then we have the 3) students who are done with their coursework doing their research, and then 4) faculty. So those are our four groups I can see at the moment, and then these four groups have different characteristics to give us a better map to see if we can meet their interests and needs. Freshmen: They don’t know anything about the schools, CGU life, etc. For the students in coursework: They are busy, looking for specific types of activities. For students finished with coursework: They have more time, and are looking for different kinds of research, research questions, etc. From that, we can define their needs and goals, and a good prescription for each user group. At least the main goals for each group.
Dr. Ryan: That’s such a good idea, we’ve been trying to do that all along. CCO is an ongoing thing. How can this service us better: CCO is primarily about conversation: This is who I am, what do I think, etc. By all means GSC should do that and cycle back to the SL^2 members. Once again, I do want to encourage you to follow up on your idea that’s exciting to potential stakeholders. The online would be used to leverage this stuff, but not replace it, and it won’t do anything in and within itself. It’s to hook up with people worth hooking up with. It provides tools if you have a project. What can the GSC do? Dream, set the vision for what a good hybrid environment is? But don’t count on it to be entertaining enough in and of itself.
Suggestion: A seminar series, in conjunction with the TransT course, maybe meet 4 times, but in between you meet via the Intellectual Community [CCO] to discuss the topics. It’s a question of deciding if that’s what you’d like to do. That’d be good to do over summer…
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Terry: SL^2 has done a ton of work for this, has got the framework down, but if we do all this market research, have a polished program, I can picture other institutions wanting something like this.
Shabnam: Look for best practices from others.
Terry: But if I’m the Oxford of the East… then am I going to pay for this type of system to be brought over to my network? If you guys spend the next couple months...
Terry: About the GSC Conference, we can publish the proceedings on CCO. Make them available online, if we can convince the discussants to continue the conversation online. “Get back onboard, if there’s stuff you haven’t thought of in the meantime, put that on there, and keep check on there.” Mention that in the physical published volume itself: “it’s online TO BE EXPLORED FURTHER.”
Bradley: We talked about these student groups, and an idea is that CCO can be used as an opportunity for students to post their research online and get feedback from their peers.
Shabnam: I’d like something like that! Some place to put up research for peer review.
Terry: Remember Google Questions? You could bid on that, bid on those Answers. There’s a bunch of communities...
Bradley: Or how about ideas that you have the idea for, but not the skills. Maybe a sort of CCO Classifieds that you can put out there and ask for skills. A lot of Stats people who are good with Stats aren’t good with coming up with ideas. A place where a student can with an idea can ask “I need someone to do some statistical analysis, etc. I have the lit review, methodology, I can’t do it myself.”
Terry: The whole Council’s on CCO, every Representative has a page that says come to me, find me, etc. Maybe we podcast our meetings, require our Representatives to make announcements, provide announcements, tell them “This is what needs to be in your CCO page,” Copy, paste, and send it out. Make it this information dissemination forum, and branch it to our GSC Conference every year. If we can alternate conference semesters with MMP…
Three branches (ideas): User groups (for the new guys), i.e. where to find free lunch? The scholastic part, i.e. Check my research (peer review). And CCO Classifieds (Can I have your skills?). This is straight business plan.
Bradley: This is something we can do over the summer, get buy-in from the Freshman come Fall Semester.
Terry: I wanna FORCE the freshmen to use it. You can’t force us. We’ve been here too long and are too set in our ways, but the freshmen don’t know any better. Like rate your professor: It’s dangerous, but it’s fair, from the students’ stand point. I’d rather know who’s a jerk, and who’s not.
Council meeting at start of summer. We’re gonna plan out the year, and I think maybe a week after that, we’d like to meet SL^2 to organize our goals and every two weeks meet.
Terry: The alumni office needs to be in on this. I think there needs to be a University wide orientation that splits off into different schools, just like how at Commencement there’s a University-wide ceremony that splits into each departments’ reception. But NOT THE FRIDAY BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS!
Bradley: Or another idea, this can even be used for selling books. e.g. “I have these books, I need to unload them, maybe I could sell them on CCO.” Maybe a Classifieds section where we could see stuff, books, and cars for sale, say for international students going home.
Terry: Maybe we could get I-Place into it. The more directions we get into this, if we want this to last, it’s got to be more than just about the students. We might get one generation to use it, but if there’s a slump... We need all these groups to be on this to sustain it. The Offices, the Alumni, CASE, FEC, I-Place, MMP
Next meeting in early summer. REALLY make it a strategic planning session, i.e. set an Action Plan for the whole summer. Budget a couple hours for that at the next meeting.